Hot topic: Everybody's all-Americans/II
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We last visited this topic on April 22.
Needless to say, a lot has changed since then.
And in some ways, a lot hasn’t.
In just a few days, the regular season will be over.
In just over two weeks, the all-America team will be selected.
Who are the eight players who should be on it? Are there any from outside the power league or even Division A?
Let’s hear your thoughts. And let’s hear your player of the year picks.
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Rocky B
Mike B
Ranagan or Froats
Bocklet
Granelli
Marasco
Badalucco (sorry for spelling)
Gordon
8 guys this year…felt winner of JJ/Town was getting 3 with loser getting 2…
I doubt froats gets much consideration, he is a great leader and a very good player but he doesn't have that factor to put him over the top, i think players like king from brewster, kevin drew, latino, or maybe even KI will get more looks. I would also take Drew or Latino over Granelli if we are talking about 2 AA's for Jay even with Granelli's game against Yorktown. Also, 1 defenseman? I haven't been able to see too many games this year but how about the kid on Somers with the last name starting with a C (i would butcher it mercilessly if i tried to spell it) or Ethan Fox, or maybe someone from Rye. There are rarely less than 2 D-men.
Gordon (M) and Keough (D) from Rye
laxin-
Drew and Latino over Granelli ? Remember, granelli dominates faceoffs as well as score. Did you watch the Ytown game ? He was the best player on the field.
I can see Drew, not Latino as well. just my opinion. All three are good players.
How about 2nd leading scorer in section 1 over last 2 years behind only Chris Bocklet), has not been held scoreless in a game in 2 years, only time off the field is when he gets a penalty, Runs attack, midfield, clears. Does everything that Bocklet, Drew, and Rocky does, just for lesser team.
Shane Ferguson, Mamaroneck
To be honest Shane Ferguson is just as good as the top players in the section, but to get AA your team has to do somewhat good and Mamaroneck just had an awful year
Chris Bocklet
Mike Bonitatibus
Rocky Bonitatibus
Tyler Granelli
Joe Marasco
Zach Badalucco
Kevin Gordon
Chris Coppolecchia
Rocky B.
Mike B./Latino
Kevin Interlicchio
Chris Bocklet
Marasco
Granelli
Gordon
K. Drew
perrelle?
IN the correct order
1. Bocklet
1. Marasco
3. Drew
4. Badalucco
5. Gordan
6. Rocky
7. Mike B
8. King
Maybe, Doraghty, rannigan,Coppalechia
Here they are…
Bocklet
Marasco
Drew
Gordon
Rocky B.
Badalucco
Coppolecchia
Mikey B.
Other possibilities:Dogherty,Granelli,Latino,(Interlicchio and Ranagan next year)
granelli did put up 3 nice g's and dominated the face off game against 'town but in the 4th quarter when the pressure was on he was also the one that threw away the ball 3 times preventing jay from closing the gap.
Bocklet
Granelli
Marasco
R. Bonitatibus
M. Bonitatibus
King
Gordon
Badalucco
Possible: Drew, Coppelechia, Interlicchio, Ranagan, Latino, Keough, Slacrosse, LoveTownLax, JGold
Coach of the Year: Mike Honey, Brewster
Guys Bocklet and Drew are getting in no matter what, two of the best players in the section and going to be UA AAs as I hear.
Here's my picks:
Bocklet
Drew
Marasco
Badalucco
Rocky B
Mike B
Granelli
Coppelechia
how are the AA decided??
Joe- who are your picks??
town –
This is the coaches' call, so I remain neutral and stay away from listing my picks. (Ditto for ESG selections.)
I will say a couple of things though. Traditionally, you will have at least one player from the sectional championship teams — sometimes as many as four of the eight. (Though that is rare and only when one team is regarded as clearly dominant as JJ was last season.) But, the AA meeting is June 3, and the sectional championships are June 5 (which is rare – it's usually after the sectional titles are decided). Still, you have to figure sectional title favorites Yorktown, John Jay and Rye will all be represented. I don't know if Rye has a shot at getting multiple honorees, but Yorktown and John Jay almost certainly will — possibly two or three per team even.
I think it would also be fair to say Chris Bocklet, an AA last season, will likely repeat. It would also be safe to say Kevin Drew, who is ranked among the top 15 seniors in the nations, is clearly among the best eight in Section 1. Ditto for Somers' Joe Marasco, who is one of the top juniors in the nation. Assuming those three are all selected, I think the selections for the other five spots will be very interesting.
goal – Coaches nominate players. They fill out a form listing the players' achievements and accomplishments. Those coaches then review the nominations and decide on the eight selections.
Granelli vs. Town
1. 20-4 on face-offs
2. 3 goals 1 assist
3. Carried JJ
One more thing- 73 points on the year
bocklet
drew
marasco
r bonitatibus
m bonitatibus
gordon
keough
badalucco
While we're discussing players and their accomplishments, congratulations to Albertus Magnus' Chris Patrick who scored his 200th career point last week against Irvington. Chris surpassed Chris Huggins to become the all-time leading scorer in school history. He now has 206 points.
thanks 'Cuse!!! I'll be happy with honorable mention… LOL!
granelli impressed me alot against yorktown so i was checking out his stats b/c i wanted to put together a list for this blog and i noticed that he was shutdown with only one assist against rye. i also noticed keough, who im not familiar with, of rye is getting alot of consideration on this blog and i wondering if keough was the one who shut down granelli?
Consider that Granelli has among the most assists in the country and he can score and face-off.
What about parelle are we completely forgetting about him
1. Bocklet
2. Marasco
3. Drew
4. Rocky B.
5. Granelli
6. Mike B.
7. King
8. Baladucco
After the Town game performance you have to add Granelli to the list.
Joe when you are you going to have a thread on Empires
laxinit – Harold was confirming a few things, and I was waiting to hear back from him.
The Hudson Valley coach and ESG coordinator is Dave McNally of Suffern once again.
For now, I can tell you what I know as far as tryout dates. This is from Hudson Valley ESG coordinator Frank Intervallo so there likely will be some changes/additions. We hope to have the official tryout times shortly.
June 6 — Check in 3-3:45 p.m. Tryouts 4-6 p.m., residents West of the Hudson River, at Suffern Middle School
June 9, 11 — Check in 3-3:45 p.m. Tryouts 4-6 p.m., residents East of the Hudson River, at Horace Greeley.
June 15 — Check in 8-8:45 p.m. Tryouts 9-11 a.m., residents East of the Hudson River, at Arlington High School.
When do the Under Armour AAs get announced? Is it before the regular AAs because I know it's sometime soon.
Joe,
Do all players trying out go to the tryout on June 15th or is that just for call backs?
Do players register online again?
I assume that the check in time for that is a.m., not p.m.
I haven't seen enough of the other guys (e.g. Mmk, Somers, etc.), but in terms of John Jay, as big a Granelli fan as I am, I would rank them Bocklet, Drew and Granelli from Jay. I've watched a lot of Jay games, and if you saw the Town game you would of course walk away singing Granelli's praises, but over the season Drew's had the better year. Not to diminish Granelli, because he had a monster season, but that's how I see it.
I really don't know about Latino because johnny mcguigan has been playin the same if not better then him and so has the rye goalie
Coppolechia
rocky
mikey b
drew
bocklet
rannagan
King
Badalucco
Brian Wiston was the D pole from rye that shut down granelli… Keough took bocklet if i recall correctly
AA's:
First Drew is not a lock. If being extremmly fast makes you an AA maybe, but it doesn't so I do not think JJ will get 3 and Bocklett will get it and after the Town game it is very apparent that Granelli carries them.
Bocklett-lock
Granelli-lock
R. Bonitatibus-lock
M. Bonitatibus-lock
Marasco
Badalucco
S. Ferguson
And the 8th and final will come down to:
Froats, Ranagan, Perelle,King, Gordon
Chris Bocklet
Mike Bonitatibus
Rocky Bonitatibus
Kevin Drew
Tyler Granelli
Joe Marasco
Zach Badalucco
Kevin Gordon
Latino has carried JJ defensively- a lot of the time it looks like it is just him vs the offensive
Niminski from Hen Hud and Ferguson from Mamaroneck don't get looks becasue of the teams they play on. Ferguson puts up numbers single handededly, and Niminski has big numbers against the power teams.
My lax you have no idea what your talking about. All those kids you are saying are locks, mabey 2 of them are. Mike b is deff good but not a lock and R. Bonitatibus is not a lock either by no means. If anything I belive marasco is more of a lock then the people you named.
some of the names mentioned have not been displaying a consistency throughout the season…against tougher opponents…and to the end that an AA should display. you can't finish a season out of shape and unable to run for an entire game and expect to be a lock. the coaches will be looking beyond the media hype at what really happens on the field. i bet you will see some surprises.
When do they vote for All-League and All-Section? Who has more say in this,a players own coach or the other coaches?
S Ferguson for sure. I would like to see any of those other attack fight double and triples all game.
3G v. Rye
4G v. Town
2G v. Brew
2G v. Fairfield Prep
May play middie in college.
south shore..
if you really think someone from a school that has a record like 4-12 will recieve AA is pretty funny, plus if he was that good then why wouldnt he be going big D1?
some players choose not to play D1 because other factors have more importance to them..while it might be unusual for AA to go to someone not D1 bound, it doesn't rule out a deserving player who is heading to a D3 school.
And for those of you who only want to look at D1 players, remember that some of these D1 bound might never see the playing field, while I bet many of the D3 enjoy a lot of time in action. It all depends on what matters to you.
lax fan – I get it now, AA is a team award, correct? Now I can alter my criteria and only pick guys on JJ, Town and maybe Rye this year.
Perrelle AA ,Brandofino all section for Pac
Drew will get in no matter what, anyone who's ranked among the top seniors in the country and is going to be an UA AA is going to get in. Plus he definitely deserves to be ranked in the top 8 in the section. He has 51 points in 17 games, among the most in the section for a midfielder, and he runs the JJ offense and runs the ball down the field for them, finding the open man or scoring himself, did you see what he did against Manhasset? So whether you think he deserves it or not, he's going to get in, as will Bocklet obviously. As for other JJ players Latino has a shot but Mike B may get it over him. I think Granelli has a good shot. Not only does he lead the section in assists (and third in P/G behind Bocklet and Doherty), he's one of the leaders in the nation. He not only finds the open man but he can score and face off as well, did you see his shots against Yorktown? That's just my opinion, I think Bocklet, Drew, and Granelli are all deserving of AAs.
Kevin Drew is a one man human clear…hes a freak athlete
AA,
I am sure you are such an expert in lacrosse and the players in the area, so write down your 8 all-americans and remember my 8 and when they come out we will see who has more correct. M.Bonitatibus is the best goalie in the Section on the best team in the Section. Enough said.
Your argument holds no water. Hen Hud was nothing terrific, and Colgate is certainly no bigger deal Than Stony Brook in D1 and that didn't seem to stop Robbie Bosco from being an AA.
AA's should be the most valuable players on the best team unless the player is so outstanding and putting up great numbers like 5-6 goals and 3-4 assists a game. a guy like ferguson is very good but doesnt put up mind blowing numbers for how bad his team is.
Yorktown- Rocky B, Mike B (Mike is a great goalie and showed it against JJ, Rocky is the leader and best player on town)
Rye- Kevin Gordon(best player on the team plays both O and D plus clears the ball next best to kdrew in the section)
JJ- Granelli, Bocklet, Drew(JJ goes as far as granelli takes them, face-offs(best in section), Leading assist man in the section, The goals against town says enough, Bocklet got it last yr and puts up the numbers every game, Drew= 1 man clear, ground ball machine, can score and now pass)
Brewster- Baddalucco (plays like an animal best long pole in the section,face-offs over 70%, can score if he needs, just ask Town)
Lakeland-panas- Doherty (great player, picks up groundballs scores goals, can pass the rock and rides hard next best attackman behind bocklet)
H/M- Marasco(didnt impress me enough no big numbers against the big teams, next yr)
-Ferguson(same as marasco if i had to choose between them for AA id pick him)
-King(great year for him and the team but just not enough for AA)
-Perrelle(great attackman can score but just not enough of the all around game)
-KI(2 young only a sophmore but he has a great future id say hes a lock for the nest 2 yrs of his high school career)
AA,
Since you seem to be such an expert, you write down your 8 all-americans and remember the ones I picked and when AA's come out we will see you has more right. Also, M. Bonitatibus is the best goalie in the Section on the best team in the Section. Enough said.
Coolkat – We all agree on Bocklet, but I wonder how many points he would have gotten if he were on mamaroneck, every coach knew that the offense had to run thru him, had a short-stick glued to him for 48 minutes. Would he have gotten any more points than Ferguson. Think about that for a minute or two. And Doherty is a great player, impressed with him at Empire tryouts last year, but nowhere near the versatility or workload that Ferguson carried. Did he clear, did he play man down, did he play the wing on face-offs. As you say, next year.
This is just a question so don't take it the wrong way.
Should John Jay get more AAs than any other team in Section I despite not being the section's top team? I ask because a lot of you list three Jay players in your top 8.
I would agree that Bocklet is the only lock, but can you justify both Granelli and Drew considering Jay lost to both Yorktown and Rye? Or should that not matter?
I realize it's an individual award, but what does it say when you have more AAs than any other team in your section but aren't the best team? Does the reflect poorly on the coach? (I think not).
Someone said before Ferguson didn't deserve it and his reasoning was because he's on a 4-12 team.
Bottom line: Should your team's record play a role in how many AAs you should actually get, as opposed to just assuming because the players are who they are, they automatically deserve it?
Alright, I think I have this AA thing pretty much solved (at least in my mind). I've seen all of the top teams play this year at least once and have formed my opinions based on what I've witnessed, not what I've read. Unfortunately, I haven't seen Ferguson from Mamaroneck this season, but I do know his game. Yorktown fans might feel they deserve three to Jay's two, but I don't see how you keep any of Jay's big three off the list. Anyway, next year there won't be enough spots for all the Huskers who are going to be worthy, so this year, I'm giving three spots to the boys from x-River.
Chris Bocklet (JJ) is the bonafide, clear cut lock because he made it last year and he's headed to Virginia, and all that. His accomplishments could take up the page. He needs to pick it up a bit in big games down the stretch like he did last season, and I'm sure he will.
Kevin Drew (JJ) is the third ranked midfielder in the nation, the 15th ranked player overall, and pretty much a lock to be considered one of the top eight guys in Section 1. Anyone who says different is really just kidding themselves or just hating on John Jay. C'mon now, he's Desko's top guy coming in. Sure, he has a few flaws in his game, but as someone previously mentioned he's a freak and he changes games more than anyone Section 1 has had in the last few years. I actually think he should have been an All-American last season.
Tyler Granelli (JJ) is looking more and more like an All-American as the season progresses. He really does it all for the Indians and at this point it's safe to say he's the engine of that team. Bocklet's a magician, Drew is a game-changer, but it's big Granelli makes that whole thing click. He's an All-American.
Rocky Bonitatibus (Y-town) is the best player on this year's best team, that alone should be enough for All-American. He can dodge and shoot as well as any middie in the section and he's a scrapper and a fighter too. Great player.
John Ranagan (Y-town junior) is my other AA pick for the Huskers. He's a man-child and is more important to the team than any of the other components aside from Rocky (and possibly Mike B). Unstoppable force next year.
JoJo Marasco (Somers junior) rivals Bocklet as the most talented player in the Section. He combines Drew's athleticism with Bocklet's skill and game sense. Plus he's a lefty. He's great this year; next year he'll be unreal.
Kevin Gordon (Rye) is the best player on Rye and they are going to get an AA this year. He's cut from the K. Drew mold, and plays the same type of game without quite the same amount of explosiveness. Very solid middie.
Matt King (Brew) is the top scorer for the rejuvenated Brewster Bears. Maybe they put Badalucco up for the honor for all he does (fo's, defense, etc.), but for my money it'll probably be King that gets the award.
Honorable Mention:
Tyler Perrelle, Pac jr.
Jack Doherty, L/P jr.
Shane Ferguson, Mmk
John Froats, Y-town
Mike Bonitatibus, Y-town jr.
Chris Latino, JJ
Matt Rix, Rye
Zach Badalucco, Brew
Chris Coppelecchia, Somers
Donald Keough, Rye jr.
I haven't put my 8 up there because there are a lot of contradictions. Nobody on Rye, arguably the best team in the section, really stands out, but that is because of the system that the Dooley's run. Should Gordon or Keough be slighted because of that? Town is probably the best team in the section, but everybody is pretty good, so who stands out there? (personally, I think Rocky is the glue there). I have seen Drew 5 or 6 times, but I wonder if his reputation is built on the Huntington Game, certainly not on the Jamesville-Dewitt game. The long and short of it is that teams records should not count for or against a kids AA evaluation.
Wasabi,
Hard to argue with what you said. Nice post. The only thing I'd say is maybe Mike B should be in your top 8 somewhere.
Just to add, I wonder if you considered Interlicchio?
Syracuse
Yes, one could justify 3 or even 4 Jay players making AA. The rationale for that would be that while Town certainly has a much deeper "team", Jay has 4 premier 'players'. It is not an accident that Bocklett, Drew and Granelli are heading to D1 final four teams.
That said, I don't think it will happen. I thought Latino had to outplay Mike B on Friday and he didn't and as well as Granelli has played, I think its at best even money that the coaches give Jay a third.
Syracuse
I think if you take Wasabi's list, the coaches will have a hard time keeping Mike B off. Its either Granelli or King that makes room for him.
Syracuse, That would be too many Town boys for Wasabi's taste….he no like Town. BUT…...Mikey B – best goalie in the SECTION – hard to say no! (although, no argument about the other talent he has suggested)
Also 'Cuse, being at CM Field on Friday was AWESOME, but watching it on TV at home, not so bad either. much drier! :o)
HV Fan – is "Rye arguably the best team in the section," or is "Town probably the best team in the section?" I'm confused…..please clarify?
Well, if that's the case then I think King would get bumped.
Granelli should be a lock behind bocklet for JJ, only reason he wouldnt be first on my list for JJ is bc bocklet got it last yr. I think Granelli is in the top 5 in the section and shouldnt have a problem with getting AA. You have to understand what he does for that team. Face-offs alone every game is 11-20 wins and 2-5 losses. He can score as seen in the town game and he could have the best vision on the field in the entire section this year. I dont understand why its even a question on if he should get it or not. I have seen many of the JJ games this yr, without Granelli JJ is no where close to the same team and i think hes the biggest factor for JJ and for any team in the section. I wish for the best of luck to all the players put up for AA its been a great yr for a few of you guys, Thanx!
I think Granelli is a much more complete player than Drew. I think Granelli could make an immediate impact at SU, while Drew, though the fastest player I've seen in a while, needs to work on his game a little because the stuff he does successfully here he won't be able to do at the D-I level.
Well I think he deserves it. Dominates the section in A/G, 3rd in P/G I believe, he can dominate face-offs and get a goal or assist right off of it, run the offense and find the open man, and he's got a monster of a shot and could score from outside (impressed me in the Town game), + he's going to Syracuse, which will probably make him recognized by the people who hand out this award. It's up to the coaches to decide. As for town, they'll probably get around 2, not as many players stand out for them so it's tough. Rocky B, Mike B, Ranagan, Kurpis, Interlicchio, possibly Froats all have shots. But as the leading assist man and face-off man in the section I think he deserves it. Him and Bocklet dominate the points on JJ. With 21 goals and 51 assists in only 17 games, he scores more than 4 P/G and could easily be considered JJ's second best player.
So yes, Granelli is a much more complete player than Drew. In the JJ-town game when town was trying to pull away in the 2nd half Granelli was there to save them with 3 monster goals, all scored from the outside I believe, plus an assist. He's a threat from anywhere, JJ had trouble penetrating town's defense but they didn't need to when Granelli put in those goals to keep them in the game, he made it look easy shooting a rocket from the outside into the corner of the net when the defense left him a little room, plus he won almost all of the face-offs. I heard some people at the beginning of the season saying he was slow, but he's not slow by any means, he's a 6'4 monster of a player.
LTL – I thought it was clear, sorry. The Rye Fans can definitely make a case for their team, given what they have accomplished, although, IMO, Town is probably the best team in the section
Syracuse,
Based on your moniker, I'm on shaky ground – and as a JJ fan, I think the world of both Granelli and Drew – but I actually think Drew's abilities translate at a major D1 level better than Granelli's.
Drew should see immediate time as a SSDM – and Granelli will be lined up behind a dozen offensive all-world kids that were recruited at SU.
Granelli is more of a complete lax player, right now – but Drew does things you can't teach.
I wish them both the best of luck – and will be rooting for them to succeed.
I completely, 100 percent agree with you about Drew playing short-stick D-middie but I didn't want to suggest it and then be accused of not knowing what I'm talking about. So, thanks for mentioning it.
Yes, Drew completely fits the mold, at this point, of a SSDM. He's extremely fast and extremely athletic, but doesn't quite have the skills to be counted on as an offensive force in D-I. That's how you get on the field. Then you take advantage of the experience and work on your skills so that by the time you're a junior, you're getting a regular run on the first two lines.
I played a lot of D-middie in college. It's thankless but it does get you on the field.
HV Fan – thanks for the clarification. Certainly, before "The Game," every Rye fan was definitively stating their case that Jay would Crush Town, and Rye would properly take their sole place at the top of Joe's Famous Fab Five. However, I was there, and Town won. Therefore what, in you opinion, gives them ground to defend their team as best in section? (NOT that I am for a moment saying they are not a great team & town, from coaches & players to Rye's shops and restaurants…& that the boys don't take fabulous vacations) HAVE AT IT EVERYONE!
I agree with the Drew point. He will defiantly start off as a short stick d middie. He will be out there to play defense and to clear it off a shot or out of bounds, take it down the field and give it to their attack man and run off for an o-middie. If you have watched any 'Cuse games this year and know who John Corozza is, (former JJ player) he will be like him. Go out play defense, get the ball back clear and run off. Not noticeable on the stat sheets but gets the job done.
With his athleticism Drew will stand out in college I agree if he develops more skills. Many Syracuse fans are excited about him he is one of their top recruits. Any word on if he'll walk onto the basketball team too? I've seen him play and he can ball too, he's the only great JJ athlete that plays competitive basketball this year but Syracuse scouts have seen him play on the Westchester Hawks, and he is a heck of an athlete on the court as well.
AA:
1. bocklet
2. marasco
3. drew
4. Mike B. (have him over latino..stepped up more in big games)
5. Gordon
6. Rocky B.
7. Granelli
8. Badalucci
i think laxdude just nailed it right on. i couldn't agree more
Bocklet will make the biggest impact on his collage team. he is the best player in the section he will be a beast at UVA. he has cousins at rye hope they are half the athletes he is.
LTL – Not a Rye guy, but if asked I would say that a 15 game win streak puts them up there. And while I fully recognize they lost to Town, my argument there would be it was at Town, only 6-3, and the 3rd game of the year. After that, my only point is that if I were a Town fan, my biggest worry would be whether or not the Huskers will bring their "A" game when they show up for the States. They do have 2 bad blowout losses that would make me nervous a little. Big help that they get Section 2 winner at home in the 2nd round.
L@X,
Yeah was sitting next to Bocklet's mom at a Jay game last yr and she mentioned the cousins in Rye. As a Rye fan did try and convince her to move Chris and the family to Rye so they could all be together!! No luck!
John Jay has three all americans drew, boklet, granelli. After that the rest of the team is brand new player filling roles.
HV Fan – 15 game win streak awesome, no doubt. But..my next question would be, what team in those 15 games would 'Town (probably) not beat? And it was only the 3rd game for BOTH teams. It think Town, going on to beat St. A's and Chaminade after that, has proven itself a worthy contender. Certainly can't argue with struggles vs. Melville and Darien, but then again, what team would we have expected Rye to struggle with? They ARE VERY good, but did not have a powerhouse out-of-section challenge post-Town. (and there is that Hen Hud disparity, that if I were a Rye fan would cause me some concern…) Bottom line – love to see them with Class C Title. I will be at their post-season games if at all possible, and will be wearing something RED!
LoveTownLax,
Rye fan but must agree with you. Also Town's wins over common opponents were much more dominant then Rye's. Also WM and Darien are are 2 of strongest teams in country let alone section. Way Town playing now prob Town wouldn't be favored over WM or Dar but my guess is games would be more competitive.
Drew is easily most athletic kid in section, maybe the state.He is also the best middie in the section. If you were picking a team he would have to be your first middie taken. Jay would never clear the ball with out him and he is best defensive middie in the section.Didn't realize it was a negative to be the most athletic kid on the field. For those who want to criticize his skill set i'm sure there isn't a player at any level that wouldn't love to have his speed. Will excell at next level on both sides of field because all he will have to do is beat his man, which he easily does and dish off to any of the great players around him, who given the space he will create for them will have the ability to consistantly finish. If jay wants to win the section and the states this year need to keep him on the field and find a more creative way to use his explosiveness.
Drew may be most athletic, but I think the criteria is best lacrosse player. If I was looking for a middie, it would be Rocky B or Gordon over Drew in a heartbeat.
hv fan I think I'll value desko and petro's opinion over yours.
Drew will be a great defensive middie at SU, but as far as creating any space on the offensive end, well the jury is out on that one for right now. Drop me a line in 2 years, I will be happy to swallow my words if I am wrong. While you're talking to John D, ask him how many kids he has graduated in the last 8 or 9 years.
lovetownlax, i was at the game and i agree neither team played well. But lets remember that town scored 4 goals in the first quarter on transitions and man ups. Then scored twice in the fourth. the sixth goal came when the game was all but over on a cheap by bonitatibus. my point being that both teams r great and would have a great rematch. my other point being once rye setted in on d town looked very average.
Don't know about you guys but I'll pick Drew over Rocky B or Gordon
hvalleylax – agreed not 'Towns best game….but I think their "very average" transformed into "above average" vs. other opponents many times this season. I was at the game, know how the scoring went.
I would take K. Gordon or Rocky B. over Drew
Then you're a bad GM. Get a copy of last year's Huntington semifinal game at Hofstra, and then tell me you'd take any other middie in the country. He outplayed the Brattons on the big stage. Talk to me when someone else in Section 1 does that.
Drew IL top 15 in country
takkle/sports illustrated. only him and bocklet in top 40
according to earlier blog- him and bocklet- UA AA
Bocklet and him only 2 invited to USA under 19 tryouts Even though he was just 16 at time.
Syracuse primary recruit (believe they're in final four again) as well as recruited by every other top program in country.
so instead of trying to make an arguement that would make all of section one look foolish why don't you just congratulate the kid for representing section one so well and try to support your kids by making a more reasonible argument.
Just a little perspective. Some of us who realize that Warrior didn't invent the game in 1998, before Bill Tierney decided that "hey we won't ride your clear, just stand still for 20 seconds while we get our 4th pole and d-middies on, and you can run your o-middies on, and then we will get the game started again" recognize the value of an actual 2-way middie who can play both O and D and transition between the 2. Kevin Drew is a phenomenal athlete who will have a great career at SU, but is he the most well rounded middie in the section? Thats why they invented Blogs
well lets put it this way…30 seconds left in a game against the number 1 team in the country in the biggest game of john jays history. you have 3 all american attack guys on your team. all committed to d-1 programs (including Bocklet) and you give the ball to k drew your middie and he scores to send the game to overtime. I'd say that says all you need to say about his offensive skills and the jay coaches belief in his offensive skills.
so yes he is the most rounded middie in section 0ne hands down.
Hey Joe i was looking at the stats of jj's game last night and it looks like you have a mix up Granelli ended up with 7 assists idk how u got 4…
2 to bocklet
2 to drew
1 to jones
1 to stewart
1 to daniello
ttime – ??? JJ scored 10 goals, so granelli assisted on 7 and scored the other 3. NO. He sure didn't assist on Bocklets behinds the back.
oops, sorry, I thought you were talking about the town game.
Lay Off Drew…He's an All-American and the best middie in the section. The recognition and accolades that have been thrown his way are pretty tough to argue against. We have no idea how his college career will turn out, but right now, it's a man against boys.
ttime – We didn't have a reporter at the game, so those were the stats reported to us. If there is a discrepancy, either coach can contact me to clear it up.
are all-americans picked before or after sectionals
Drew scored 5 and 1 last game against Mahopac. He's a defense presence with his athleticism, did a very nice job on one of the Brattons last year almost shutting them down entirely, he's also the one who scored with seconds left to send it into overtime right? I wouldn't be surprised if he had the most ground balls for a middie non face-off specialist in the section also. He clears the ball easily without even having to pass it, often running the whole field to score, and he can run the offense and create plays as well as doing it on the defensive end. He runs JJ's midfield and has 30 goals 27 assists so far this season, 14 more points than Rocky B and 15 more points than Gordon. In my opinion he's the best middie in the section and a definite lock for an AA. Don't know how you guys can argue against him being a lock when he's already an UNDER ARMOUR ALL AMERICAN and ranked as one of the best middies in the country by IL and Takkle, and it's not like he doesn't deserve it.
Lax just hit that on the spot. CANNOT argue with that, great points.
Drew is clearly a terrific HS player & will do well @ the next level. If Drew was not on JJ I believe Brewster beats them
Rix instead of Mikey B.
Rix has played well all year, but Mikey B. has had some huge games vs much tougher competition… then again he's had some not some sub par games against brewster, l/p and somers, I think Latino gets it over both
theres alot of talk about town being stronger against common opponents. i dont see that at all. ok theres hen hud, but besides that town beats somers by 2 giving up 10 goals, while rye beat them 10-4, then theres brewster and for both teams it was close but once again rye giving up much less goals. then the big one lakeland panas, town wins 11-10 while rye wins 7-2. pville town wins by 8 rye by 6. to me i dont c town having a bigger advantage in common opponents. im not saying rye is better. and obviously town had some huge wins against good teams, but no common opponents. just saying better results against commong opponents is not true. good luck to everyone.
hen hud- lets not get carried away
blogs your terribly mistaking…yes Town played a close game vs Somers but bottom line is that they did not even want to be there!! it was cold and rainy and their minds were already focused on playoffs, not somers…Towns coaches always make sure to play with class, which is why you never see Town run up the scores and make sure to play their entire roster…believe me, all Town cares about are the W's, TOP opponents and playoffs, not rye, brewster or somers…
laxtime – That is such BS. It was cold and rainy for Somers too. More Town excuses. Were they flat too? Did the bus break down on the way to Somers? Give me a break. So you say Town doesnt care about Somers. They dont care they lost to them two years in a row and almost three in a row. That would have been total ownage. As it is two years in a row is very impressive for Somers. Town should use Somers as an example of how they should play – hard and with passion and respect for the game at all times and not making excuses when you lose or dont win by an impressive score. I hope for Towns sake you never played for them or play for them now because your comments are embarrasing and a real insult to the game.
laxtime234,
Agree with teyuh!! Outrageous. Sure every team wants W's and even better vs. top comp but the rest is BS.
I hope Coach Marr has no idea who you are! If he does and sees you he could take 2 tacts (1) most likely he'll just ignore and hope you go away on the Blogs or (2) tell you how much BS your commenet was, embarrassing, insulting, doesn't represent his views,players,or the majority of the fans.
I do hope the players of rye, brewster, (particularly somers who town has to play agian) see it as will do nothing but get them even more motivated to beat Town
My list
Marasco – best player in section for me
Bocklet- has struggled this year…only 1g in Town game but still very very good
Rocky B – great shooter on great team
Mike B- best goalie in section
Those are my locks…then i feel there will be some heated debate about the following in my order of choice
Badalucco- all around good dman/faceoffs
Ranagan- big middie who is being heavily recruited
Granelli- more skills than Drew as I see Jay only getting 2 AA's as this sort of thing comes down to wins as well..losing to Town and Rye takes the 3rd AA away…if you disagree.that is still how it goes..
Last one will be debated i feel very heavily between
Kurpis, Interlicchio, King, Gordon, Ferguson
Marasco- Very impressive game vs. Town, also can be mentioned as best player in sec 1…
Bocklet- Can do it all…
Rock B.- Best all around player for best team in Sec 1.
Mike B.- Best goalie, for best team in Sec 1.
Badalucco- Big threat for Tim Shurrs D-fense, great stick and holds down every teams best player
Granelli- A monster, great year, arugubally best player for Jay this year
Drew- Struggling this year but is one of key players for JJ's success
Interlicchio-leading in goals/points for best team in sec.1, dont matter if hes a soph
steve0 and Drew – Drew is struggling this year? I bet every middie save for Marasco in Sec 1 wishes they had to have those sort of struggles. Maybe best athlete in the area. You may be holding these high recruits to a different standard of performance. Name one other middie from JJ who shined this year – Drew is on his own between the lines.
Also, no where is it written that a goalie has to make AA. if so, check out my other post showing the stats how Rix outplayed Mike B against top opponents in Sec 1.
Rix should be Rye's AA over Gordon. Gordon is a solid two way middie, but I didn't see offensive explosiveness from him like Marasco, Drew, Rocky B. Great kid and will do well at next level, just may get caught in numbers game for AAs.
I like Drew….a very good player but his stick skills are not on that elite level…he is an amazing athlete but lacrosse wise I see him in the top 10 yes, top 8 no…
Badalucco plays for Brewster laxtime234….bull on faceoffs and in his matchups..
Marasco I have seen 6 to 7 times and I truly think he is the best in the section right now…OSU is getting a very talented player..needs to work on feeding but that will come with better players around him…
stevo hopefully you are not a lax coach. under armour AA announced bocklet and drew from section 1.
congrats to both great to see section 1 represented. good luck in playoffs and at the next level. i'm sure you'll both represent section 1 very well
Probably shouldn't, but grade does cost Interlicchio. It cost Ferguson last year when all the coaches decided "sorry, only 1 Jr this year" If KI gets it from Town, "as leading scorer from best team", then why include Rocky? Personally rather have Rocky, and thinks he deserves it more.
IL has shown to truly not be the know it all of high school lacrosse. Take a look at their Preseason top 20 list this season. Just because they say, does not mean it is true. AA truly does not mean much anyway. Coaches who have seen a guy once or not at all decide these things. If a kid has a great day vs them, he may be on their list. If he falters, then he drops in their rankings. You could look back at the former AA's lists and see guys who should have never gotten it and if you followed HS lax those years, kids that should have gotten it.
steveo – agree on IL, but I must come back to Drew. His stick is not the best (although leading Middie scorer), but more to lax than the stick, don't forget the feet. There there wasn't any one on the field with him who could keep up with him. Does he need a stronger off hand? Yes, but not at this level.
This year is a classic case of a deep, well coached teams (Town & Rye) being superior to a team (JJ) with three stars. Rye doesn't look pretty, but they win and the scoring is always spread out among five or so players. Town put on a passing clinic against JJ especially from the Mids. That does not mean they have the most talented performers this year, only they have a deeper team this year.
AA List: – Marasco – Granelli – Drew – Bocklett – Rix – Rocky B. – Ferguson – Badalucci
Final rosters for the Under Armour Boys Lacrosse Classic, to be held July 12 at Towson, were released today. As we told you a while back, Chris Bocklet and Kevin Drew earned invites.
Here's the link.
I still think Drew is a lock and the best middie in the section. Bocklet has struggled in a few games this year against great competition and great defense, such as against Manhasset, Duxbury, Niskayuna, Yorktown, but every other game he did well and he's still the best player in the section, fairly sure he leads in points in section 1.
Examples: Bocklet scores 6 goals against Corning East (right after scoring 6 and 1 against Hudson), goes 4 and 3 against St. Anthonys, 4 and 5 against Put Valley, 5 and 1 against L/P, 5 and 1 against Somers, 4 and 2 against Brewster, 2 and 3 against Rye, 3 and 2 against Greeley, 4 against Comsewogue and Mahopac, 3 and 3 against Byram Hills….. The only games where he didn't dominate are because of the opposing defenses. Niskayuna has incredible defense, Duxbury has one of the top ranked defenders in the country according to Takkle on him, Manhasset had Paul Pate on him, and of course it was tough for him to penetrate Yorktowns defense but he still had 1 and 1 and in every other game he did well. He should be considered the best player in the section.
I think Mike B should be the goalie who gets it. Rix may be good but Mike B has played against tougher competition and still did awesome against teams such as St. Anthonys, Chaminade, and JJ. Maybe we can have 2 goalies as AAs? It happened a couple years ago why not this year? Latino, Rix, and Mike B all have shots at being AAs.
Here's my list:
Rocky B
Drew
Bocklet
Badalucco
Marasco
Granelli
Mike B
Someone from Rye, maybe Rix or Gordon
Love lax I agree with your comment but you can't say Town and Rye are superior to JJ, they beat JJ but on any given night JJ can beat them without a doubt. It's not official who's the best team in the section, it will never be unlike last year, although it unofficially goes to Town. Sometimes it's a misconception that JJ only has 3 great players. What about JJ's 2nd and 3rd leading scorers? Harrison Jones has 43 goals this year and 13 assists, not too far behind Chris Bocklet in goals who has 56. Billy Laperch, a midfielder, is JJ's 3rd leading scorer with 33. Then is Kevin Drew with 30, and Will Stewart with 27 and Tyler Granelli with 21 (and 55 assists), Daniello who is a 2nd string freshman midfielder has the next most with 11. Town is more spread out of course but just saying it's not only Bocklet and Granelli and Drew who get all of the points on JJ. JJ's not nearly as strong on Defense as last year but they still have Latino in the goal and a great player in James Whalen.
Clearly no one else plays in the section so just pick 4 from column a (town) nad 4 from column b (jj)
laxin
Froats has scooped up over 100 ground balls from the wing this year at town, not a bad factor, as well as being teams offensive QB.
VO: agreed, Froats is the teams QB, when the ball needs to be settled he settles it, and when it needs to be hot, he speeds it up. But as for RIX, absolutely no way he should be AA. If Rye had a goalie of a more elite caliber EX: Haggerty (Clark S) or Robinson (FL) they would let up half the amount they let in now. Although they play for mediocre teams, Haggerty and Robinson play at another level. They keep their teams in the games when they should be getting blown out.
keough from rye should get aa
there will be more than 1 defenseman, don't know who will join badalucco but there will be more than 1
Froats reminds me of Santavicca in how he does whatever needs to be done
1. Marasco, the best player in the section
2. Bocklet, unbelievable
3. Drew, can do it all
4. Rocky, great scorer
5. Mike B, steps up in big games
6. Dougherty, big force in big games
7. Badalucco, best dman in section 1
8. Interlicchio, leads team in scoring. Gordon, has been a great player for 2 years now on rye. Granelli, workhorse.
Don't think grade hurt Ferguson last year, it was more about how he scored – mostly off feeds form Monaghan who broke down his D-man and passed over for some great looks in front. They probably 'split' vote for Mamk. He will be solid player at next level – probably move to middie given speed and size.
Mike I. over Granelli is laughable…IMO
LAX – do not let stats be an equivalent of performance. JJ players are always going to get higher stats given high octane Offense and players will benefit from teams looking to double Drew and deal with Bocklett and Granelli.
Rye and Town are not superior to JJ, just played a better team game in both contests and came out on top. The outcome could have been different, but it is hard to argue the style of play.
Ferguson and Monaghan probably did split vote, but Shane wasn't just a shooter. He had 33 assists, which was #2 on the team. And I admit to seeing K.I. only once or twice, but in the Jay game, I only saw 1 goal he created, the other three were result of great set-ups that he finished. Kind of puts him in the same boat as Ferguson. And there is a lot of people to split the Town vote among.
Marasco, Bocklet, Drew, Granelli, Badalucco, Mike B, Rocky B, King.
pacfan,
I like your votes, probably the same way i see it. No votes for rye. I haven't seen them play. They only have had 1 AA lately and this seems to be there strongest team in a while. They will probably get one. Actually you have eight and i believe there are 9 slots this year. Problem solved. Watch out for Ranagan over King…..close call.
I don't see how Rix is not a greater part of this conversation. Just because he is on a class C team does not make him a worse goalie than others. Team ability is taken too much into consideration. In fact, I think that some of the best players are on less competitive teams that never get a second look.
RIX HAS BETTER STATS THAN MIKEY B!!!!!!
It just really bothers me that where you live and where you go to school, two things 99 percent of people can't help, are two of the large deciding factors in who gets AA votes. Have any of you ever seen Haggerty of South or Shreck of Suffern play a game and honestly say their natural ability does not compare to these so called front runners for AA? Think about it.
DAWG….Look at the types of teams Rix plays and then look at the types of teams Mike B. players, my point exactly….Mike B. has it in the bag especially for the outstanding season Town had in sec. 1…
Your right fan it shouldent matter what team a person comes from but sadly it happens. I have seen shrek and haggerty as you said and both honestly are AA material. I have seen shrek shut down the best kids in the section and I have seen haggerty just be a brick wall
Please tell me how most of these AA shoe-ins fared against Shreck. If any of you front-runners were at any Suffern games you would see. There is not a single defenseman in the section like Evan Shreck, a kid who takes every team's best player and forces him to use his other teammates, simply because beating him 1 on 1 is extremely difficult to impossible.
Im sorry but Rix is a real good player but not on the level of Latino and Mike B…..the stick handling of Michael is the best of the three..then you look at in the cage and he has been real good, as have all three…town plays tougher teams and mike passes the eye test…watch all three play three to four games and you tell me who you would want in a one game playoff…i want michael or latino…..go with michael this year, maybe latino last….
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I hear schrek is a three sport captain and a brainiac in the cassroom. Going to ivy league and never tried out for empires. Kids got a lot on his plate. Wonder if he's playing anything in college. Real deal footwork.
steveo – I think this horse has been beaten down – but your last comment on choosing Latino last year – why because he had the better D playing in front of him – just like Rix this year? Frankly I do not think Sec 1 AA needs a goalie – I just know Somers and Brewster lit up Mike B and not Rix.
All three will prove their skills over the next three weeks. Looking forward to it!
is it Rix's fault his AD dosen't make a tougher scheudle for him. he put up better numbers against the same opponents he had a better game against jay than mikey did and a better game againts town than latino did. i want him in net all playoffs long. he is the vocal leader of the best deff. in the section bar none. he puts up the numbers to back up a shot at AA this year. give it to Rix this year and mikey next.