What awaits after John Jay-Yorktown
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- May
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Like me, I’m sure you’ve enjoyed many of the quality posts by our friend “Syracuse” here at “Lax to the Max.”
At times you probably couldn’t agree more.
Other times, you may wonder what he possibly could be thinking.
But that’s ‘Cuse for you.
Well, he sent along some thoughts on how things look for Section 1 teams in the postseason.
Here it is:
I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’ve had just about enough of all this Yorktown-John Jay nonsense. Once 10 p.m. rolls around Friday night every single Section 1 lax player, fan and parent should be switching their focus to the real season.
The Section 1 tournament has a chance to be the best one in recent memory. With the exception of Rye, which I fully expect to win Class C easily as it follows its preordained path to both state and galactic domination THIS season, this will not be your older brother’s tournament.
Yorktown and John Jay, the historical rulers of the roost so to speak, will be challenged. They will in all likelihood win their respective class titles, but there will be moments of pause and trepidation for each. Oh yes, you can count on that.
Imagine if you will Yorktown trailing Lakeland/Panas late in the Class A final. One would say, “Why Syracuse, what’s wrong with you? Yorktown already trailed L/P late this season?” Yes, they did, but the sectional tournament, as proven time and again by the sheer number of engraved trophies floating around, is Yorktown’s time. The ‘Huskers do not, under any circumstances, leave their “A” game home during the tournament.
They won’t this year either. But that doesn’t mean they won’t be caught up in a battle at some point. L/P will be up for them. So will Mahopac. There’s plenty of fight in these teams. Maybe not enough to slay Goliath, but they’ll sure as heck show up armed.
John Jay’s road to the state tournament is much more defined. Take out Brewster. In any other year I’d say Jay is a mortal lock, but this year, like Yorktown, Jay will be pushed. Brewster is the real deal, one that Coach Sav is probably already game-planning for.
I’m telling you all this not because I like to tell you things you already know, but to set you all up for an inevitability.
Sooner rather than later, more than one Section 1 team is going to win a state championship on the same day. I, for one, believe wholeheartedly it could happen this year.
Many Section 1 fans like to rebel against Yorktown fans because they think those who worship the green and white walk around with this sense of entitlement, as if no fan of any other team has the right or the audacity to say, God forbid, that the mighty ‘Husker program isn’t what it used to be.Well, if you think Yorktown fans can be arrogant, just try spewing your war-mongering rhetoric on a Long Island-themed thread on Laxpower.
I have found the upstate, i.e. West Genny, folks much more accommodating. They not only think they are great, they know it. But, from time to time they’ll throw you some scraps with things like, “I hear Yorktown has a pretty good little team this year.” Ask them about Rye and they say, “Son, this isn’t sandwich.com. Come back when you’re all grown up. Then, maybe, we’ll have something to talk about.”
What they don’t realize is Section 1 is primed and ready to win now. The upper echelon of the section is no longer willing to accept just getting to Hofstra. No, no. Now we want your titles, too. The evil-doers know all about Yorktown, have an idea about John Jay and have “heard” of Rye, and in past years teams like Somers, Mahopac and L/P.
As much as I’d like to see the Hudson Valley become Long Island, without the traffic, flooding and weird accents, of course, I want Section 1 to topple Sections 8 and 11 in a meaningful spot.
Jay and Rye can do this now. Yorktown … well, let’s just say you never, ever count the ‘Huskers out of any game at any time or place. They have the hardest road by far, what with Niskayuna, Ward Melville and West Islip lurking and then some West Genny clone waiting around, expecting fully to see one of Strong Island’s finest for all the marbles.
The days of Section 1 state titles are coming. The players are better. The coaches are as good as any in the country. The feeder programs are sprouting up faster than dendelions on my lawn. And most importantly, the buzz is undeniable.
We as a section needed to get to a point where quality teams are interchangeable. That time is now. Parity is here. All the top teams in the state not named Melville or Islip have two, three or even four losses. Now’s the time to strike.
The rest of the state doesn’t respect you. Don’t you think it’s high time it did?
Well, now’s your chance.
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He's got me pumped. Joe, anymore Lax journalist jobs available for 'Cuse at the Journal News?
Good post – I agree w/ most of it except:
– While Rye is clearly the most favored out of each of the classes' front-runners in Section I, I hate to see the word 'easily' thrown in there. If they have a let down defensively and there O struggles to score goals (which they have at times this season) they are quite beatable.
And if/when they meet the LI Class C champ, they become even more beatable.
Class B is the most wide-open in the state with most Class B LI teams having down years.
Class A on LI has some parity as well, but most of the top-flight teams should still beat 'Town if they meet (Syosset, Farmingdale, Massapequa, Ward Melville, West Islip, Smithtown West)
And as far as the LI-themed threads on LaxPower, I say LI has walked the walk for MANY years so they have earned the right to chirp a bit more than others…
Have at it!
That was good stuff. I feel like I just watched the big battle scene in Braveheart.
amen
This game is going to obviously come down to faceoffs. Whoever wins the f/o's wins the game. But also, the attack for yorktown i think will dominate the jay defense. The defense for jay is made up of fairly new players w/ a strong goalie in Latino. For town, kurpis finishes everywhere, interlicchio always manages to get to the goal, and lieberman works the ball in transition and really gets everything to move from x, same with Tom casey. Jays attack is also very good. Bocklet is arguably the best player in the state. Harrison Jones will always have points and i think laperch is the other one who will score whenever he is a given a shot with open space. The town defense is probably a little stronger than jays though. Mike b is the best goalie in the section i think and the rest of the defense has been on the team for at least two years with the exception of one or two. Set up to be a classic.
Glad everyone seemed to enjoy this. I hope to do it again real soon.
STRONGISLAND:
The Town Defense may have "played together", but they did not do it on Varsity. As noted early this year, both JJ and Town had inexperienced defensive teams heading into the season, and the difference will be how these defensive units have come together.
For Town, Fox is the only returning defensemen. He is a junior, but this is his third year starting varsity. He will play pole along with Zimmel, Fennessey, Brunelle and Cabriele. Zimmel and Fennessey were on varsity last year, but saw limited playing time. Brunelle and Cabriele played JV only. The D-middie's were less experienced when the season started. Aversano, Farrell, Gunther, Tarkin (all seniors) and Hanlon (jr) had limitd or no varsity time at D-middie last season. This group needs a super effort for Town to prevail tonight. Tough assignment with KDrew at the point !
Face-off's will be important. Ranagan, Farrell and Porcelli from Town vs. Granelli from JJ. I give edge to JJ, not just on Granelli winning the FO, but on his wingmen getting to the groundballs first.
He who controls the FO, will control the game!
With all that said, should be a great game—and just as important, a humanitarian cause will be addressed—breast cancer awareness. All you lax fans, dig deep into your pockets tonight, and do so with all the passion that you expect from your teams when they take the field !!
Well, Niskayuna (if we win Section 2) is waiting for whoever makes it out of Section 1. We already spanked John Jay. Guilderland beat Lakeland in OT. The only top Section 1 team Section 2 hasn't beaten is Yorktown (and we almost beat you in the regionals last year. So hopefully if Yorktown wins Section 1 they can put up a better game.
p.s. Niskayuna only has 5 seniors, so we'll be even better next year ;^)
Two sophs on Ytowns attack line with Interlicchio being the only experienced one will pose trouble for Town. Lieberman will be exposed by Jay defense. Faceoffs to Jay . Goalies equal. Jay wins 12-8
"516"
IN YOUR DISASTER SCENARIO FOR RYE (NO "O" OR "D")WHY DIDN'T YOU ALSO INCLUDE "AND THE COACHES DONT SHOW FOR THE GAMES" WHILE YOU WERE AT IT!!
AS FOR SECTION C LAST TIME I LOOKED AT MANHASSAT, MT. SINAI AND COLD SPRING HARBOR I NOTICED THAT THESE TEAMS WERE MADE UP OF "BOYS" NOT MACHINES. LI TEAMS ARE NOT ON AUTO-PILOT IN TERMS OF PLAYING GREAT O AND D ALL THE TIME!
AS THEY DID LAST YR AT HOFSTRA (JJ WINNING, RYE ALMOST BEATING SWR) THE BEST SECTION 1 TEAMS WILL SHOW UP AND PLAY THEIR BUTTS OFF. LI WILL KNOW THEY'RE IN A BATTLE.
14-10 town
LaxBusSection2.
Be careful what you wish for come tourney time. Look at Town Schedule – not too many teams the 'caliber' of Shaker and Saratoga Springs on the slate. Do you guys come down state to play Sec 1 next year or only play at home against good comp? Take the early morning bus ride and be sure to stretch out those hammies.
We'll be ready. Let's see if you can shut John Jay down like we did. Without a 3 minute unreleasable Chris Bocklett and Co. was scorless for 46 minutes ;^)
Good Luck,
Section 2
Sec 1 lax fan,
GREAT COMMENT. ON THE MARK!!!
Laxbus, did any section 2 teams beat Rye, or how about Brewster or Iona Prep or Mahopac or Somers? Great job Guilderland beating L/P this year but they're not even in the top 5 in section 1 this year. Did you forget L/P beating Shaker 12-1, which you guys only beat by 1? And JJ beat L/P 12-6 this year. Nisky and Guilderland are pretty good but not as good as the best section 1 teams and there are many more good section 1 teams than section 2 teams, Nisky and Guilderland are the only ones who are good. I'm almost convinced the JJ win was a fluke after Nisky beats Hudson only 9-6 (By a goal less than against JJ but JJ won 18-6 against Hudson), Shenendehowa 5-3 (Yorktown won 16-3). There's no way JJ will only score 5 goals in a game again this season, even if they play Nisky again. You guys are good but not as good as section 1, nice wins for Nisky against JJ and Duxbury but they play a weak schedule and still haven't dominated teams. Section 1 will probably win in every class this year, Nisky has a chance but not a good one. But that's about it for section 2 teams, Guilderland probably won't be a top 5 section 1 team and other "good" section 2 teams such as Shenendehowa and Queensbury are jokes compared to good section 1 teams, Shenendehowa lost 16-3 to town and Queensbury lost 7-11 against Byram Hills (who JJ beat 18-3). Don't brag about section 2 teams when Nisky's the only one who has a small chance come sectionals, Guilderlands pretty good but that's it for section 2. And don't say Nisky smacked JJ when that was almost certainly a fluke in my opinion, think what you want but JJ is still the better team, we beat you last year and this year even though we lost you guys wouldn't beat us in a series of games. Well anyway, good luck.
No disrespect btw this is just my opinion think what you want, but there's no way section 2 as a whole is better than section 1, Nisky's good though.
Section 1,
Never said that all of Section 2 is better than Section 1. All I'm saying is that the best team from Section 2 beat up the best team from Section 1.
What I am saying is that be ready come playoff time. Please take Section 2 lightly ;^) The win over John Jay was a fluke.
Section 2
And Guilderland is pretty good they beat L/P in OT, but would not beat Rye, JJ, Brewster, Yorktown, or Iona Prep, who L/P lost to 2-7, 6-12, 6-13, 9-10, 11-12 respectively.
Game Summary
John Jay at Niskayuna
Saturday May 3, 2008 7:30pm
Score
1 2 3 4 Total
John Jay 2 0 3 0 5
Niskayuna 2 2 3 2 9
Highlights
Niskayuna improved to 11-0 after a 9-5 win over John Jay
John Jay
Name Goals Assists Saves
Chris Bocklett 1 0 0
Kevin Drew 0 1 0
Tyler Granelli 1 3 0
Harrison Jones 1 0 0
Bill Laperch 1 0 0
Chris Latino 0 0 13
Will Stewart 1 0 0
Niskayuna
Name Goals Assists Saves
Seth Berggren 1 5 0
Steve D'Amario 2 0 0
Jared Franze 1 0 0
James Manchester 0 0 15
Dan McKinney 2 1 0
Will McPartlon 3 0 0
I'm being censored…i've tried three times to send the john jay – niskayuna game summary, but it never appears while my other comments do appear. Too funny.
Good luck Town!
Section 2
Here's a link to the John Jay – Niskayuna game summary. Maybe this will work.
http://timesunion.com/highschoolsports/boyslacrosse/summary.asp?site=default&GameID=2795
Section 2
Section 1 et al.
John Jay scored twice in the first two minutes. After that the only time they could score was in the 3rd period. They scored three goals during a 3 minute unreleasable. Hard to call that a fluke….43 scoreless minutes ?
Section 1,
The only thing that is real is the actual head to head game between John Jay and Niskayuna. Everything else is speculation. When the undefeated records and bragging rights were on the line, Section 2 got the job done, fluke or not. We'll see if Yorktown can dominate John Jay like Niskayuna did. Hopefully the next time we speak it will be just before the showdown between Niskayuna and Yorktown ;^)
Section 2
Of course Nisky was the better team that day, they're very good. The only reason I'm saying I think it's a fluke because I think JJ is the better team if you look at some of the scores besides that game, but that's just my opinion. How Nisky limited the Jay offense to 5 goals, no clue, I don't think they'd scored that low in years, so good job by Nisky considering JJ has I think in the top 10 amount of goals for a team in the nation. Maybe Nisky's defense played amazing, maybe JJ's offense was stagnant, maybe a combination of both. But hopefully for JJ that won't happen again though. No question the team that was better that day won, but Jay's coming into sectionals looking good with dominating wins their last 2 games (ever since the OT loss to Rye). I think that woke them up when they haven't lost to a section 1 team for years since that game. If JJ plays like they did against Comsewogue they can beat almost any team. Both JJ and Nisky I think haven't played that consistently, but they're both good teams, we both beat Duxbury 12-7. Assuming they win, I'll be rooting for Yorktown against you guys but if you guys played like you did against Jay then congratulations.
Just realized there's another section1 on other posts sorry for using your name lol.
Great stuff boys. I'm loving it.
Just my $.02 …
I learned long ago you can no longer take Section 2 with a grain of salt. When Nisky beat Yorktown in the state quarters a few years ago it put to rest the belief that Section 2 can't be a region to fear.
Now, that said, there is absolutely no depth in Section 2. Then again, there used to be no worthy teams there either. Now there are, so expect there to be depth coming out of the Albany area in the next few years.
As for Nisky this year. As a Yorktown fan, I fear them because they play the type of defense that not many can match. They have the capability to hold Yorktown to single digits, which is precisely how you beat them.
I suspect should they meet again it will be a tight low-scoring game, but I see Yorktown winning. Too much offense, whil;e Nisky has too little.
i wonder who would win a Rye-Nisky game?
Section 2, I am from the section (2) and played in the suburb council…trust me when I say the lax in section one is many levels ahead of us. Teams down in 1 would dominate most 2 teams with the JV. Nisky aside. Can you imagine what a Yorktown would do against a Burnt Hills. Section 2 is a one hit, or maybe one team wonder. Hurts saying that but until Nisky starts to play the LI teams and a tougher schedule I don't believe. Dux and JJ is ony two games.
I hope Town faces and "spanks" Nisky just so we shut up this LaxBus guy! He has been talking smack on Laxpower and now here. How quickly he forgets what Jay did to that team the prior 2 years, including knocking them out of the playoffs 2 years ago. You boys will be rolling into Yorktown all high and mighty, then you get to play on Charlie Murphy field, the field where Town seems to always step it up a notch…then Mr LaxBus…..I am hoping your name changes to Mr. drop-a-pin-silence-long-bus-ride-back-to-albany – - bus!
LacrosseInsider,
No smack talk here. Niskayuna proved JJ is beatable by holding them to their lowest offense output of the year. Yorktown confirm it. It's .all good
Let's hope we meet in the Sectionals. I should be great game ;^)
p.s. Didn't Adirondack (Section2) beat HV (Section 1) at the Empires this summer?
1st 2nd 3rd 4th Final
Adirondack 1 3 2 4 10
Hudson Valley 3 0 1 1 5
LaxBus
ytown will smoke nisky
To be fair, the results of Empires games have no bearing on this thread. Means nothing. You put an All-Star thing together and anything can happen when you have days to prepare for the tournament. It may be a bad example, but look at USA basketball a few years back …
I am totally confounded by the Jay-Nisky game. I'm leaning toward believing more and more that Jay just played its worst game of the season by far. I'm not saying Nisky isn't good. I know they play D really well. But then I look at a recent common opponent and it makes me wonder:
On May 17, Nisky beat Christian Bros. 8-6. On May 10, Lakeland/Panas beat Christian Bros. 13-4. Does this mean L/P is as good as Jay? Obviously, they aren't.
I'm not pretending to know what went on in the Nisky-Christian Bros. game. I have not the first clue, but the fact that Nisky plays such low-scoring games has to make you wonder if their defense this year is good enough to hang with a Yorktown offense that is, 1. better than John Jay's and 2. better than anyone Nisky has played all season.
I'm just stunned Jay lost that game, and the way they lost it.
It's way too earlier to try to guess a Yorktown-Nisky score, but, man, I just can't see Yorktown losing at this point. They are on a serious roll right now and would probably play the three teams they lost to—Ward Melville, Darien and McDonogh—much tougher in a rematch. I'm not saying they win, but I am saying the outcomes would definitely not be in doubt at halftime.
Syracuse,
You are wise and fair in all the blogs you write….
I threw in the Empires just because Dan McKinney (junior middie committed to Georgetown) lit up Rocco Bonitatibus for three goals that game in a 10-5 win for ADK. Also because someone earlier in this blog said that Section 1 overall was better than Section 2 overall…which would imply that an All-Star team from Section 1 would beat and All-Star team from Section 2, which obviously didn't happen last summer. That being said, comparing ADK to HV isn't fair. Therefore I respectfully withdraw that comparison.
As far as the JJ game, we were stunned too. Now we both know that we can beat JJ and they aren't the team they were last year. Best for us to let that go now and focus on getting to the post-season so that they get to play each other. Here's the recent history between our two sections:
State Tournament Quarter Finals
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2000: Mahopac beats Shaker 13-8
2001: Mahopac beats Nisky 12-2
2002: Shen beat Mahopac 5-3
2003: Shen beats Lakeland/Panas 10-9
2004: Shen beats Mahopac 12-11 in OT
2005: Nisky beats Yorktown 11-6
2006: JJ beat Niskayuna 7-5
2007: Yorktown beats Nisky 6-5…Nisky had shot hit pipe with 3 sec left in regulation ;^(
2008: ????
History shows that the Section 1 vs 2 rivalry is always close. Since 2000 the series is tied 4-4. Lax is a game of runs, and so is our rivalry…can't get better than this.
Mark June 10th and hope we both make it that far so we can break the tie ;^)
LaxBus
Section 2
Correction,
Dan McKinney lit up Michael Bonitatibus for 3 goals. The ADK defense (three close defenders and the long stick middie were all Nisky) held Rocco scoreless during that game.
My bad,
LaxBus
Section 2
One more correction:
1999: Yorktown beat Nisky 4-3
So as far as I can go back this is how it stands
Section Series: 5-4 for Section 1
Nisky-Yorktown Series: 2-1 Yorktown
Yorktown wasn't in class A for a good part of those years though.
Lax,
When did Yorktown go Class A? 2005?
So we'll start in 2005 for Class A. That would make "Thruway Series" tied at 1 a piece. Let's hope you get past Lakeland/Panas and we get past Guilderland so we can break the tie. That would be embarrassing if neither team made it after all this talk ;^)
Good Luck in the Section 1 playoffs,
LaxBus
Section 2
Just curious, would you consider this years Niskayuna team better or worse than last years? I went to see the JJ-Nisky game last year, JJ ended up winning 9-3 but it was close for the most part, you guys are a great defensive team. Of course JJ was better last year too. JJ beat town by 6 too, so I was expecting Town-Nisky game to be close. I wasn't even expecting town to get past L/P last year but they stepped it up in sectionals.
Yes I think Yorktown switched in 2005, Yorktown and JJ have always been switching between A and B. Nisky is lucking out, however, I hear both are going to be in B next year. At least JJ and Town can compete for sectionals again like the overtime win for JJ in 2006, that makes it a true rivalry.
LaxBus you make some good points Sec 2 is getting better, But most yrs they may have 2 or 3 teams that are decent Sec 1 has 6 or 7…. Also you talk about History, the 2003 empires was the first time you beat Sec 1 when they were held in Buffalo that took over 20+ yrs also you left out that the Empires Team that you call Sec 2 is made up of Sec 7 and 10 also.. Also you forgot the first time Sec 2 Nisky beat Sec 1 Yorktown was in Kingston 2000 regionals, better known as the rain game and Y Town with out uniforms and equipment bus drive drove off with them.. Sec 2 is getting better but if you want to talk history its not even close Y Town alone has beaten sec 2 23 out of 25 yrs in the states, Y Town alone has 6 State Championships Sec 2 none.. I could add alot more, because I have seen alot more, Nisky as a program is legit…
Yeah, it's hard to argue against Section 2 over the last 10 years in the regionals or state quarters. The section appears to have made strides, but it's really just a few teams that scare anyone.
Obviously the goal for Section 2 is to build up its small school reputation and have break throughs in Class B and C in the state tournament, while simultaneously having the Niskys of the world continue to give Section I fits while trying to get back to Hofstra or Coyne.
I think it's inevitable that they will on both levels because the game is bigger than it's ever been before.
Just keep in mind this: As you guys improve, you must never forget that Section I's elite, as in Yorktown and John Jay, will also improve. It's just that you guys have more room for improvement and when you do make a splash, it's big news. Our teams beat you and it's expected. Our splash needs to be made more often at Hofstra.
Now, on a personal note. Here's my question for all Section 2 fans: The coach of Shen is a guy named Chuck Holohan. I know I know a Chuck Holohan who played D-III lax back in the late 1980s/early 90s at an upstate college that was once pretty good but now is completely in the toilet. He was a big bruising defenseman who had a penchant for living large on weekends.
I know this because if he's the same guy I'm thinking of then he was my teammate for two years.
Can anyone shed some light on coach Holohan? I appreciate it.
sec2?????????....pleeease!! Ytown would get smashed before that game
Lax,
This year's team is VERY young. We graduated 17 Seniors last year. All pre-season we had to read about how this year was everyone else's chance to knock us off the hill. As you can see from the box scores, we never make it easy on ourselves. What you can also see is that we have met every challenge to date. The thing that is different about this team is that we play like a team, we never pack up the tent when we are down, and we own the 4th qtr. Most teams scoreless in the second half.
Is this team better than last year?....I'd say it's different, not better. Both found ways to pull out a win. If you compare last years team to how good the current team will be next year, I think next year's team is going to be a force. This years inexperience will lead to a VERY experienced Senior-laden team. However we end up doing this year, I think we'll do even better next year.
Finally, you're seeing cages in every yard now in Upstate. The youth program is in full swing. The first kids to be in the program are now in college (Mark Bryan – Johns Hopkins, Basil Daratsos-Navy, etc) Now that the pipeline is full, we as a region should only get better.
The other thing to note is that all the other Section 2 teams are copying our model, so it is only a matter of time until there is parity. Once we have parity in Section 2, you'll see the Section 2 Champs making a run every year. Are growth is still accelerating, while you are achieving a more mature growth. We all get better. Then maybe one day New York State will be considered the home of the best lacrosse in the nation. I think we're there already. A rising tide lifts all boats ;^)
LaxBus
Syracuse,
Yes, Section 2 needs to break through and win a State Championship. Does our strength of schedule hurt us….absolutely. As you can see, each year we try to play the best teams out of section to get us ready for the playoffs. John Jay and Duxbury are always on the calendar.
The ultimate goal is to get more exposure for our kids in the recruiting pool, which is the focus of our coaches. Winning is nice, but getting every kid into their school of choice is what drives them. Exposure is tough because the media and the College coaches don't think Section 2 can produce strong lax players. For example, the Adirondack team (which is always dominated by Section 2 in general, and Nisky in particular) didn't even get mentioned by name in Inside Lacrosse's review of the Games, even thought we beat Hudson Valley, NYC, and came very close to beating Central. All the teams we beat got write ups and kids mentioned by name. We have an image problem in the world of lacrosse. Even though Section 1 hasn't won the States in a while, you have won them before and you can ride on your reputation. We are still building our reputation. Stay tuned, cause one day we will break through. Hopefully sooner than later ;^)
p.s. I'll check into the Shen coach for you.
LaxBus
LaxBus,
Coach Holohan is exactly who I thought he was. No need to find out for me. The webmaster for Shen's site emailed me back. Thanks though.
Syracuse,
Hopefully we'll ruin his night Thursday by putting away the Shen and ending the season a perfect 18-0 ;^) Then it's on to the Sectionals to earn a chance to play Section 1.
LaxBusSection2
LaxBus,
I'm trying to get some information on all three of the big Section 2 Class A schools, so that the people here have some idea who they could be facing. I don't expect anyone from up there to "ruin the surprise" so to speak, but my intention is to try to shed some light on who the top players are.
All we know so far, for the most part, are school names, records and who they beat, but we know little about individual talents. My hope is to get some info soon. I wouldn't expect you to enlighten us either, but feel free if you think there are a few things that would liven debate.